7 Deadly Sins: Lust
Hey, guys. Welcome back to the encounter of podcast. Today, we have Matthew. We have Christian. We have me, and then we have Danny.
SHEILY:He's returned back. Yes. Today, we're continuing on with our series of the 7 deadly sins, but we're gonna focus on the lusts. Dun. Dun.
SHEILY:Dun. You know, something that's a very a topic that's very sensitive. A topic that's not really, anyone is comfortable talking about at all. But I just want to say loud and clear, here and now in the beginning of the podcast that lust yes. We think about lust being, sexual on the sexual side.
SHEILY:But let me tell you guys that lust is not always just sexual. Lust can be giving to your own desires, and it's mainly that. That's think think think think about think about yourself in this aspect. That we all lust every single day. We all lust not even knowing that we lust and we're like, wow, lust is such a, a powerful sin that I would never do but little do we know that we do that too.
SHEILY:Lust is a poison that threatening threaten did I pronounce that right? Threatens our connection with the Lord. And I would just wanna read to you the verses James 114-15. And it says, you are tempted by evil things you want. Your own desire leads you away and traps you.
SHEILY:Your desire grows inside it grows inside you until it results in sin and then the sin grows bigger and bigger and finally ends in death. And isn't it crazy that it says here that we are tempted by the evil things we want to do? So we end up saying like, oh, actually, I prefer doing something else than, doing what's righteous in the lord. Like, whatever whatever it may be. And it doesn't say it has to be big.
SHEILY:It says your own desire I'm sorry. No. Your sin grows bigger and bigger. Meaning that your sin doesn't have to start off big. Your sin starts off small and then it's inside you and then it grows and grows and grows and grows.
SHEILY:And then next thing you know that you're sinning and you're not even knowing that you're sinning and then death. You're dead. And then it yes. I don't wanna know if anyone wants to add on to this. But yeah.
SHEILY:So an example that I wanna do that led on to death is actually Judas. And I know a lot of people know that this guy, Judas, he he was greedy with, like, money. He he was the one he was an apostle that handled the money. He was a finance guy. You know, whenever they needed, anything to do with the money aspect, it was Judas.
SHEILY:But little did we know that Judas lusted because his desire, his own desire was to be rich. How many of us in this world desires to be rich? And how many of us are tempted with the thoughts like, oh, how is my future gonna be? I need to earn, like, 6 figures. Fun fact, I barely learned what what 6 figures is and what that that says.
SHEILY:It's a 100,000 and up. But I was like, where did the 6 come from? But yeah. I was like, bro. But I was like, oh, you're future and you need to earn 6 figures to survive.
SHEILY:And it's true. But you know what? In God, anything can happen. Don't worry about your own like, don't worry. Don't worry at all.
SHEILY:Actually, I'm not I'm not I'm just saying do not worry because God has perfect love for you. And when he goes into your perfect love, all that worry, all that fear goes out. And god has everything under control. Don't worry about, your life at all.
DANNY:Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna tell you guys that also, if you guys see the story of Judas, it says that every time that somebody else tried to give something else to Jesus Christ as he was, as he was, as you said, he was, you know, he was a financial guy of the disciples. And every time that somebody else would try to give, something to Jesus, he always figured out a way that how they could do it better. He always said, like, for example, when that woman, gave that perfume to the Lord and, you know, it it was it was worth a lot of money.
DANNY:He said, oh, we could have used that to give to the poor. And then Jesus turns to him and says, the poor will always be around, but I won't be around forever. And it was just it was just amazing because I was before starting this podcast, I was thinking about lust about just sexuality and, you know, your strong craving for sex. Mhmm. But now that you're we we lust for something that is not ours.
DANNY:So for example, like I I I love that you said about Judas because Judas was like that. Right? Judas saw the money that was coming in and I'm guessing I'm I'm guessing was it wasn't too much because Jesus would still sleep on the floor and the disciples would sleep like in a little tent. You know, that he would sleep on the Judas, how much did he sell, Jesus for? 50 pieces of Judas, how much did he sell, Jesus for?
DANNY:50 pieces of silver. So what he wanted was money in his pocket. That's just, just like you said, right? And us, you know, we have, you know, a lot of people don't like this, but I wanna tell you guys, everybody this, that we all have a Judas inside. We all have this little Judas that's inside and it depends how big or small.
DANNY:It's up to you, right? If you feed that Judas, it's gonna get bigger and if you let it starve, it's gonna get smaller. So we are meant to, sorry, we're not meant to, but we are wired to want to sell Jesus for money. And and, you know, everybody speaking and everybody hearing, that's what Paul also would say, you know. He would say all these false teachers, what they wanna do is take your money and and give you, you know, nice words and to say that they're preaching.
DANNY:But in reality, what they really wanted was money. So this Judas, I think, let's call it the the lust of Judas. Right? We we we have to remove it and weed it out of ourselves because if not, we start liking more, you know, into our 6 figure account than into what we have up in heaven, which is, you know, the rewards up there are forever and everything here is just passing. And and we have to understand that this lust this lust, we have to change it.
DANNY:And also in this same lust, I would like to say, Matthew, I have it here. Yeah, Matthew 527 and then this is Jesus speaking and honestly I love this verse and it says, you have heard and it was, it says, this is Jesus speaking. It says, you have heard it and it was said, you shall not commit adultery. Adultery is another type of lust, right? And it says, but I say to that everyone and listen, so so back in back in Exodus and Deuteronomy, he's he brings Jesus brings back the the scripture from behind, from the from the older days and says and tells them, you shall not commit adultery, but he grabs it and changes it and says, but it doesn't change it, but makes it better.
DANNY:And it says, but I say to everyone so much as whoever looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her heart. So imagine how lust is, right? So now let's bring lust into like a full circle, right? So imagine only thinking about you wanting something that is not yours and you've already committed it. And and that's that's what is crazy about about, about this, right?
DANNY:About lust about like what you're saying, lusting and wanting something so, so much that he says that even just by looking at a woman that is not yours. And and you know, some people might say, Danny, you know, I look at women that are single. Well, it doesn't matter because as if they have a father, they have a mother, and most of all, they don't have a mother or father, they have Christ, which is their his father. So they don't belong to you. You haven't married them.
DANNY:Therefore, if you if you see them with lust, if you see them with like, oh, I want this woman, you've already you've already sinned in your heart because it says right here, for her and yourself have committed adultery with her in her heart. And what I love about it is the next part, because this is the next part, right? Like we're not gonna give you guys bad news. And he says, if your right eye makes you stumble and it leads you to sin, tear it out and throw it away because it would be better for you to lose one part of your body than lose your whole body into hell. And it says, and if your right hand makes you stumble and leads you to sin, cut it off and throw it away for it's better for you to lose one part of a body than your whole body to hell.
DANNY:So look, I wanna finish. I don't know if you guys have something to say. I'm sure you do and you guys have to say it, but I was gonna tell you guys that it's so crazy how how God doesn't have an antidote for lust. But he says, if you already committed it, cut it off. There's no there's no, how do I say this?
DANNY:There's no, here, take this little pill so you can come back from it. And it's almost like, you know what I think lust is? It's like gangrene. Once once it's eaten up some of your arm, like, there's no way you bring it back. So we have to make sure that the little parts that we do have filled up with lust, we make sure we cut them off right away because like he says, right, it's better for you to cut off a finger than lose your own hand.
DANNY:It's better off to cut up your hand than lose your whole body to, to to this to this problem. Right?
MATT:And, I just wanted to, like, was it, like, jump, like, jump on that point and read this this passage is kind of a little long, but I'm gonna try to read it very quickly. It's second Peter. It starts second Peter 2 on 9. It says, then the lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to keep the unrighteous under punishment till the day of judgement and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority, bold and willful. They do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones.
MATT:Whereas angels through the greater and might empower, do not pronounce, a blasphemous judgment against them before the lord, But these like irrational animals, creatures of instincts, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant will also be destroyed in their destruction. Suffering wrong as the wage for their for their wrongdoing, they count it pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions while they feast with you. And this is the part that I wanna talk about. It says they have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin.
MATT:They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed, accursed children. Right? And when it says, eyes full of adultery, like, we see, like, the stuff also in, where is it? In Proverbs 17:4, an evildoer listens to wicked lips and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue.
MATT:Right? So where do these things like, where do, like, what happens, like, where do these things come from? Like, having, like, these, like, adulterous eyes, like, being lustful after, like, certain things. You know? It comes from the things that we, like, which we talk about it a lot.
MATT:Like, we even have the series, like, windows to the soul, but it's the stuff that we feed into ourselves. Right? So, all this stuff is, like, a big contributor to what we, like, feel on the inside. Right? And if you it's like what the world wants for us, obviously, because if you listen if you turn on end the radio anything, what is it gonna do?
MATT:Right? It's literally rap songs about, like, men wanting women, about women wanting men, like, all this stuff. Right? And it like, the world almost kind of, like, wants you like, to hardwire you or, like, to build you up to see, like, like, in the in the sense of, like, lust, to see people not even as, like, people, to see them as, like, objects for our own pleasures and desires, to see anything that we want as, like, something like, oh, I want that. I'm gonna take it.
MATT:You know? And this is where, like, the lust comes from. And then it also, like, builds that up inside of you. So, like, even in your daily life, you don't even, like you start to, like, see people in that way, like, as, like, a natural instinct. You know?
MATT:It doesn't even become a thing of, like, oh, like, you're thinking of somebody just, like, oh, and then it becomes less, like, no. Like, the first thing you think about is, like, oh, like, I want that thing. You know? So I just wanted to add that into it as well.
CHRISTIAN:And just to touch on what you're saying, Matthew, there's a verse in Exodus 2017. It says, you must not want to take your neighbor's house. You must not want his wife. You must not want his servants or his cattle or his donkeys. You must not want to take anything that belongs to that other person.
CHRISTIAN:And that kind of, has to do with, like, what you were saying, how when we desire for something or lust for something, we're putting people in the same category as someone's donkey, as someone's, you know, clothes, as someone's belongings, we're we're taking away that that aspect of them. Right.
MATT:And yeah.
SHEILY:Yeah.
DANNY:And I was gonna say as well, like, with the with the what you guys said, it's so beautiful that you guys do you guys understand that this, this is not only how do I say this? Like you said about the windows of the soul and wanting the things that are not yours. Right? If you guys notice this, even people, even kids, kids that maybe never even heard any music or know anything. What is the first thing they say when they have it?
DANNY:Somebody else has a nice toy.
SHEILY:I want it.
DANNY:I want it. Right? They they they they they lust for the toy that that's not theirs. So in reality in reality, it doesn't even come from what we listen to. It comes from the first sin of the world, which is Eve wanting to eat the fruit that we're not supposed to have.
DANNY:So it was the first thing that that God the father tells tells Adam, you know, do not eat from that fruit. And Adam said, yes, sir. You know, Eve came by and then said, look, don't eat from there. And that's exactly what she lusted for. And if you guys even notice, like that's the that's like the whole like deal with this world, right?
DANNY:Like, Oh, dude, think about the apple, you know, it doesn't matter. And that's what everything is like. Right? And I want to just make sure that we're clear on this, that it's not only, it's not only the, of course the things that you listen to and you put in your head and you read and you and you talk about feeds that in, but it's something that we have naturally in ourselves. Like we are born sinners.
DANNY:Like, I feel like I would we would have to just, you know, have a podcast about being born sinner. But but I was gonna tell you guys that this sin, this this wanting in our life does not only come when we're older, but it comes since we come out of the womb. And we always want something we can't have and we always wonder where it comes from and it's just our nature. And that's we're horrible people in nature. You know what I mean?
SHEILY:Yep. Oh, sorry. Uh-huh.
MATT:Sorry. I wanna add something really quick. Because, like, what he was saying, like, it's already, like, a part of our nature. Right? And, like, the part where I read, like, irrational animals, creatures of instinct.
MATT:Right? Like like you said, like, it's something that already is within us. Right? And even Paul that he says, like, I do what I don't want to do. Like, right?
MATT:Like, he says, like, the the laws or, like, when he says something, like, sin is already written into his members, like, it's already a part of a thing that's within us. And, I just wanted to add one I
DANNY:don't know
MATT:if you're gonna stay on the subject by 1.
SHEILY:Yeah. Yeah.
MATT:Okay. Yeah. You can go on. Alright. You can stay on the subject.
MATT:Okay. I was going to stage a little bit. But I was going to say because sorry. Go on. If you wanted to say that.
SHEILY:I just wanted to create a like a little example is that when we're desiring something so much, then we have it and then all of a sudden it's just like, oh, we hate it. Like we don't even, you didn't even want it at the moment. I think it's just, I think what we have within us is just claiming that it's yours. That, oh, I have I have I have I have what's supposedly good for me, what's supposedly beneficial for me. But then after you look at it, after you just end up, like, not liking it at all.
SHEILY:You're just like, oh, bro. I don't really need this. I need something else. And the desire to have and have and have. But
MATT:It's like the feeling, like, when you're, like, when you order something on Amazon and then you're, like, waiting for it. You're like, oh my gosh.
DANNY:I can't wait for it.
MATT:I can't
SHEILY:wait for it. Yeah. Exactly. And then you
MATT:get it and you're like, oh, okay.
SHEILY:It's just literally what we humans yeah. We what humans want is just to get, to get, to get, but we don't even mind anything. Like, we're just wanting, wanting, wanting. But what what reminds me of lust and it falls a lot of into lust is Abnon and Tamar where Abnon, he wanted Tamar like really, really bad. He desired her really, really bad.
SHEILY:And the most disgusting part of it is that was his sister. And then yeah. His half sister. And Abnan, what's it called? He desired her.
SHEILY:He desired desired and he was like, no. I want her. I want her. I want her. I want her.
SHEILY:Okay. Whatever. But she didn't want it. She was just like, Abnon, you're literally my half brother, bro. I don't bro, get away.
SHEILY:You know? But he ended up raping her. I'm sorry for the people if it's a sensitive topic. Yeah. Trigger warning but too late of a warning.
SHEILY:But so long story short, he raped her and then he, he did what he wanted to do with her. And then right right after the second after, he hated her. He despised her. And then, what's it called? And then I wanted to I wanted to let you guys know on this verse on Romans 13:13.
SHEILY:And it says, we should live in a right way like people who belong to the day. We should not have while this is goes on to what we should not do. It says, we should not have wild parties or being drunk. We should not involved in sexual sin or any kind of immoral behavior. We should not cause arguments and trouble or be jealous.
SHEILY:Okay. The crazy part here is that in this story, it says that, yeah, we shouldn't have those desires at all because look what what it came down to. Imagine how the mud felt. Like, that's so crazy. And girls and guys, whatever it it shall be, we shouldn't desire that at all.
SHEILY:Like, how you guys were saying, once you think about it in the head, once you think about it in your head, I mean, you already done the action. Like, simple as that. But I wanna go into more of this verse where it also says it's not just sexual, but it's also jealousy. It's also causing arguments. It's also like the desires of going to parties.
SHEILY:I know a lot a lot of youthful people, even Christians, that they desire to go to parties and be drunk because what? It looks good? It looks what? It looks happy? Supposedly, it looks fun.
SHEILY:But I wanna say that to get rid of all this, it's literally just cleaning yourself from the inside out. You have to look within. You have to look what you have within and clean it and clean it because that's where it starts. It's like, oh, it's like, you know when you're cleaning your casa and your mom tells you, oh, you should clean? But like sometimes you just organize it to make it look clean.
SHEILY:But when she comes in, she's like, And it's just like, oh, you see the corners all dirty? That's how we are if we clean from the outside only saying, oh, yeah. We're holy, holy, holy. But on the inside, you're still dirty. You still have those same desires.
SHEILY:And sometimes, like I said before, if you have it on the inside and you keep it on the inside, it's just gonna grow bigger and bigger and then it's gonna come out again. And then you're like, bro, I'm trying to get rid of it. But you're trying to get rid of it in the wrong way. You have to clean it from the inside out and in the verse, Romans 12:2 and it says, so here's what I want you oh, sorry. I'm using the the version MSG and it starts from 1 and then 2.
SHEILY:It combines them and it says, so here's what I want you to do. This is God, helping you. It says take your every ordinary day life, sleeping, going out to eat, walking around life, you know, and place it before God as an offering. But why? Because when you it keeps going.
SHEILY:It says embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him. But when you do it for him, he's also cleaning you and then it goes and it goes into this. It says, god does for you god does for you what is best the best thing you can do for him. Don't become so well adjusted to your culture that you fit into without even thinking. Remember I was saying that you're so, you're so routinely doing root
MATT:root Routinely.
SHEILY:Routinely doing sins over and over again that you fit into it. And you're not even you're not even thinking at this point. It's like second nature. Yeah. Exactly.
SHEILY:And then it and it says, where does it go? It says, you'll be changed from the inside out. Readily recognize what he wants from you and quickly respond to it. Unlike the culture around you, always dragging you down to its level of immaturity. And this the part is crazy that it it mentions around you because we often think like, oh, why do we act like this?
SHEILY:Why do I think like this? It's because who are you surrounding yourself with? And then maybe not even you talking to that one person, but the talks around you is gonna is gonna, contaminate you.
MATT:Literally, like, the
SHEILY:Yeah. Yeah. Keep going.
MATT:Because the the like, this whole chunk of, like, scripture was, like, 29 to 22. Second Peter is it literally says, what did it say? I'm sorry. It says, they entice unsteady souls. Right?
MATT:And it also says they entice by sexual by sensual passions of the flesh, those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. Right? So, like, the people who, like, you're with, if they're, like, in this lust and they're just giving up to their passions. Right? The thing that you're gonna do is try to entice you into it.
MATT:Like, for example, like, the world right now. Right? Like second Peter 2 19, this part literally, like, opened my eyes right now because it says they promised they promised them freedom, but they themselves are are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, that that to that, he is enslaved. So the world right now, they offer you freedom.
MATT:They're like, oh, like, do what makes you happy because that's gonna give you freedom, give you freedom in your sexuality and your gender. Like, you don't have to conform to a certain standard. You know? They're saying, like, you can just do whatever you want. Like, this is the freedom that they say.
MATT:Right? But in reality, like, everything like, they're being enslaved to their own passions. Right? And their freedom is actually what they're enslaved to, you know, because we, like, as people are like creatures meant to worship, you know, and we get to decide what we're doing that what we're worshiping, you know? We have to worship God who's the only one worthy of worship, but these people, they worship themselves.
MATT:They worship their own passions and their own lusts and their own, like, wants and desires. Right? And that's when they become, like, these rational animals that they say because when we give when we're when we give ourselves up to these passions, it's kind of, like, goes against reason. You know? Like, you can see that in the world where people are like, oh, yeah.
MATT:I'm he I'm a he, but I'm also they. Like, I'm a guy, but I also am not either guy or girl. You know? It doesn't like that always confusing and like it's and people even go so far to be like, oh, I'm an animal. I'm like an object.
MATT:And I'm just like, what is going on? Because it goes against reason. And if you notice, like, in, like, passions, like, in lust, like like you said, after, like, the the moment of, like, passions and lust, you're just, like, wait. Like, why did I want that thing so badly? Right?
MATT:And, like, that's when the rationality comes back to you. You know? And you're and, you know, God is a God of wisdom and order, and he wants us to have that wisdom and reason within us all the time. You know? And we should always think, like, when we're feeling passions or lust, just try to think, like, that rationality.
MATT:Like, why do I want this so badly? Like, try to think the meaning behind it so that way you can over, like, overcome and be like, okay. Maybe this is not what I should be near, like, with the people. Right? If you're feeling lust after a lot of like, after something like, you know, being in a group with people, you're like, oh, maybe this is the reason why.
MATT:One of the reasons why I'm trying I'm starting to feel this way. You know? Like, people are talking this way around me, and that's why I'm starting to talk this way. You know? And, you know, the Bible says what we talk about is comes from the abundance of our heart.
MATT:So, yeah, that's what I want to add.
CHRISTIAN:And just as you're saying how, lust and how, giving into your desires can kind of take you away from reason and kind of blind you in a way. That reminded me of the story of Samson and Delilah, because, Samson, before he met Delilah, he had a lot of lust with a lot of people, and that was kind of what he just gave into. And over time, that was what he became, like, that was what he gave into constantly. But when he met Delilah, there were there were signs that that she she might have other motives for for trying to, seduce him and kind of give in, have him give in to that lust. But because that's what he was used to, he kind of was very blinded by that.
CHRISTIAN:So it got to the point that his continuation of just giving into that lust led him to telling her that his secret for his strength was his hair. And it ended up her cutting off his hair, which enabled him to be captured and and imprisoned and chained. So kind of how giving into, your lust can really blind you from your rational thinking.
DANNY:You know you know what's crazy with, I was just reading the story of Samsung, and I find it so crazy that, that, you know, Delilah didn't just tell her once, you know, what's your secret? And, I don't look me, I still listen to streetlights Bible. I don't know if you guys do. Yeah. But I listened to it so much.
DANNY:And honestly, I was I was on my way to, to pick up, to pick up, to pick up, Noemi. And and either way, I I was there and then I was listening to this girl, you know, telling because you know they they switch out voices. Right? So cool. And I was listening to this girl tell him tell him, oh, you know what's what's the secret to your strength?
DANNY:And he tells me one thing and then that exactly same thing happens and then the Philistine comes 3 times before he tells her the truth. And I'm just like, he is so blinded by her beauty. Right? She's so blinded that literally the minute he would tell him, I don't know where the Philistines would come. Right?
DANNY:And watch out, Samson. The Philistines are coming to get you and then he would be tied exactly like he would. And sometimes aren't we exactly like that? Like like like spiritually? Like we we see that, you know, the the sin that we play with, it binds us one time, binds us another one, and binds us three times.
DANNY:And you know what's the craziest thing that I I figured out on on on the on the judges when when when he when he when you know when God gets mad, it's it's it's not that it's not that God it's not that God, sorry. It's not that he cut off his hair because I I I truly believe I truly believe that God, wasn't on, you know, with him just because of his hair. But he was with him because he was chosen, because he was being he was kept, you know, away from everything else. But it's it's crazy when he says that when they when they, how do I say this? It says when they took off his hair, it says that God abandoned him.
DANNY:Here it says Judge 16/20, it says, and the Philistines are you Samson, that says Delilah says. Then she said, the Philistines are on you Samson. He woke up thinking I'll go out like always and shake them free. Look, look, look, look at his thinking. He thought he could do the same thing he was been able to do with this lust.
DANNY:And he didn't realize, not that he didn't have any hair, that God had abandoned him. So I just look with this lust and everything, I think I think that the the the big, I think, how do I say this? The big consequences that if we continue playing with this, we might end up having God abandoned us. And it's not and if you guys noticed, he takes him to the Philistines and the Philistines gouge his eyes out. They put him in that mill and he ends up dying.
DANNY:He ends up dying, right? He kills more Philistines than he ever killed, but he still ends up dying. So with this, I think lust, I think lust is something that we shouldn't play with too much, even though that, you know, as young people, I feel like, you know, it's really hard to say that because, you know, we wanna experience everything, you know, but I feel like if we experienced a little bit of it and we can just understand this and we can ask God, God, please give me the understanding to get away from this, you know. And not only would like like we all said this, not only about sexuality. Right?
DANNY:But just everything. And honestly, my biggest fear is that God leaves me and abandons me. And I don't I don't want that to happen ever in my life.
MATT:Yeah. And I was gonna say, like, with the case of, like, Delilah as well, like, when she was, like, constantly, like, oh, what's your weakness? Right? Sometimes in, like, in our life, we're gonna have that sort of thing. Right?
MATT:Where even in maybe, like, let's say our phone, right, on Instagram. On Instagram, it's it's like it has, like, the what is it called? The the the algorithm. Right? And it's like, oh, let's give them this post.
MATT:Right? Let's see if if this person's gonna like it, and we'll just scroll past it. And it's gonna try to find, like, where our weaknesses. Right? And, obviously, like, it's social media is not, like, this thing that's, like, purposefully trying to do it, but, like, it does it.
MATT:Right? And we're the ones who give into it, like Samson. Right? And we're and sometimes we'll, like, stay on the post that we're not supposed to stay on for a while, and the algorithm's like, oh, he likes this. Like, let's keep giving it to him.
MATT:Right? And that's when the enemy finds our weakness and just, like, goes after it. Right? Like, the Bible says, like, it's like a lion. Right?
MATT:Just waiting for the right moment. And, like this like, the passage I, like, have been reading this whole time, it says, they enticed by central passions of flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error, even in our weaknesses. You know? Like, even, like, let's say, like, it says, like, those who are barely escaping, who, those who live in error, like, in the times when we're, weak, like, after like, let's say we're in, like, a a season where, like, we're, like, very sad. You know?
MATT:We're, like, just very, like, depressed. We're, like, there's nothing like, we feel like that. Right? We feel hopeless. Then the enemy will be like, okay.
MATT:Let's try to throw this in as well, like, the passions. Right? And that's when it has, like, more of an opportunity because it's our weakness. You know? But then the Bible also shows us that in our weakness, that's when god shows us strength.
MATT:Right? Knowing that we don't, in our weakness, we don't just fall. Right? In our weakness, we have somebody who, if we don't reach that measure, can just fill up the rest of it for us, which is God's strength. Right?
MATT:And in those moments of weaknesses, when we have to, like, be, like, with our phone, for example, have the strength of God, that self control, that fruit that we have through the Holy Spirit, and be like, okay, maybe our phone my phone, not right now. You know? If I'm feeling this way, throw my phone away and just, yeah, throw throw my phone away, you know? And, I don't know, spend time with your family. You know?
MATT:Spend time with friends who will actually edify you. You know? Do like, read the Bible. Do something else just to keep your mind off it. If you know these things are your weakness, you know.
MATT:Don't let the enemy use it against you, you know. Because your phone can be something that can be used great stuff, like, you know, the Bible, for listening to preachings, all this stuff. But we will obviously get, distracted and the enemy is gonna use that against us. So Yeah. So you know
DANNY:what I was gonna say, guys? I think I think just to, I think to just wrap up the the the podcast that that we're talking about because this is this is just straight up, I think, lack of discipline. I I I honestly believe this, and I think we all. I think we all like this. Right?
DANNY:Not not just some people, but everybody likes, some some discipline. But what I was gonna tell you guys was this, that even even Paul, even Paul himself would say that, you know, God sent him this type of, you know, like like like bother, you know, this type of things that he will never kinda feel greater than he is. And then 1st Corinthians 927, he finishes this. And this is honestly, I wanna I wanna do this. And I asked God, God help me.
DANNY:It says, but but like a boxer, I'm watching. I'm watching. I'm not I'm reading AMP. It says, but like a boxer, I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached the gospel to others, I myself somehow be disqualified as unfit for service. And there's another there's another, there's another version in Spanish that says, I I punish my body.
DANNY:And and honestly, this whole thing of throwing your phone away, it's that. It's you punishing your body so you can tell your body, no. It's not this way, but it's that way. And and and you might you might say, you know, like, it's so hard to punish your own body. Right?
DANNY:Because it hurts, you know, like, you and if you even if you guys read, in in Corinthians how how or I think it's Ephesians how, you know, the woman should submit to the to to the man and and the church should submit to Christ. And then it he tells the man, love your wife like you love your own body. Right? And then right here, he also says, but I I I punish my own body. Now I'm not saying that you guys should hit your wives.
DANNY:Right? I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying, like, how much love do you have to have your own body? Right? You're never gonna grab a knife and stab your own leg.
DANNY:Right? Because your leg, you know, twitched out. You know? Or or you're never you're never gonna hurt yourself because, you know, it's impossible. And yet here, Paul says, I discipline, I punish my body so that I can so I can maintain it into the discipline that it must be.
DANNY:And what I love the most is that it so I can make it my slave. So if you guys understand, who's he talking about? He's talking to he's talking about himself in a third person, right? He's talking about, I'm gonna make my body my slave, but you are your body. No, no, no.
DANNY:And this is when it's, we're talking about the inner man and your spirit. That your spirit must understand that it is its own self and that it that should be reigning over your soul and over your body. So I think overall, we should try to reach this. Make our body our slave and then our spirit is a slave to God by love, right? And that's and that's how we should end up fixing everything so we're not disqualified just like Paul says here.
DANNY:Does anybody else have anything to say? No. Everyone actually has You have something to say. Perfect.
MATT:Very quickly because you were talking about, like, making our body our slave. And, I was thinking because I I forget where I where I heard this, but, like, with, like, making our body our slave and, like you said, like, punishing ourselves, like, with that kind of stuff. Like, I saw this thing where it was, like, not to give into our flesh and to, like, help ourselves, like, have self control. Even in, like, small, like, physical things, it's like for example, like, if I'm if I'm, like, eating and I'm like, okay. Like, I kinda want another plate, but should I have another plate?
MATT:Like, you know, that like, that kind of stuff. Or, like, if I'm eating, like, desserts, like, for example, like ice cream and I eat, like, 3 bowls and then you want another one, you're like, but should I? Even in small things that like that that seem, like, so stupid, it it's like Helps. Yeah. It helps, like, to train your, like, flesh to be like, okay.
MATT:I want this. I want this. Even if it's something small. Right? And they'll be like, no.
MATT:I'm not gonna have it. You know? And, like, I saw I see, like, when I think of discipline, like, it says, like, a boxer, I I see, like, stuff like bodybuilders and, like, let's say, taking, like, ice baths or, like, they're, like, eating, like, they're supposed to, like, so strictly, like, they're weighing their stuff. So if they are like, dang. That takes discipline.
MATT:Like, even this in, like, when, like, you wanna we don't wanna wake up in the morning and it's already, like, 12 PM, you're like, ugh. But I'll just stay in bed and, like, be on Instagram. Like, even like, that's why, like, laziness and all this stuff is, like, seems a bad thing in the Bible because we're not supposed to give into these, like, wants and things that we our desires, you know. So even in the small things, you know, waking up early, like, this is, like, discipline, you know, disciplining our bodies to be how how, like, to have self control. So that's what I wanted.
MATT:Sorry.
DANNY:That's okay. Don't say sorry. You know, I I was reading god's word, and it says rather I toughen up my body with punches. That's so imagine punching yourself. That is so crazy.
DANNY:Right? Oh, god. You know, you're just like, oh, you know, I want this. Black guy. Who gave it to you?
DANNY:Myself. You know, I'm making this a little bit of a joke just just so we can understand, but, you know, it is serious. You know? We have to make our body our slave. But guys, thank you guys for joining us once more time.
DANNY:Thank you guys for staying with us 30 minutes and guys, we bless you and we hope, you know, to give you some type of, you know, hope in your lust because we all, you know, we all go through it and we all fight it continually. And in 2nd Timothy, Paul tells Timothy, run away from your youthful passions. So if you can't fight them, run away. Run away as fast as you can, and I promise it will be better. God bless you guys.
DANNY:Take care. I'll see you guys next week.
